3.Dassey Testimony Mistrial Motion and Ruling
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My recollection of Bobby Dassey's testimony was that he said that on Thursday, November 3, 2005, in the presense of Bobby Dassey, and his friend, Mike -- he didn't identify him further than as "Mike" -- that Steven Avery asked if they wanted to help get rid of a body, or "the body". I'm not clear. I didn't write this down better.
But at the time Bobby said that he thought Steve was joking about that, and it was Shortly after that testimony that I interjected briefly, as I did.
We have no written summary of an interview of Bobby Dassey, in which that statement is recited. So, the immediate concern was disclosure of oral statements of the defendant, that the State intends to use at trial, I think, under Section 971.23(1) (b).
We do have a Calumet County Sheriff's Department report of a contact with Michael Osmunson, O-S-M-U-N-S-O-N, where, for counsel's benefit, and the Court's, is page 259 of the Calumet County Sheriff's Department report. That report, which is not an interview of Bobby Dassey, recites a Statement of this Michael Osmunson, that he and Bobby were inside the Dassey garage, when Steven came over, and he goes on from there.
I think probably here, the best thing for me to do is, what I will do is just read this for the Court's benefit now, and make this a Court Exhibit, page 259 of the report. The first chance I get, we will make a copy of it. I will read the relevant paragraph in its entirety.
"Michael indicated the only time he had been at the Avery property between 10-31-05 and 11-14-05 was on Thursday, 11-10-05. He stated he and Bobby were inside the Dassey garage when Steven came over. Michael indicated he was aware Steven was one of the last people to see the missing girl, and jokingly asked Steven if Steven had her (the missing girl) in a closet. At this point Steven asked Michael if Michael wanted to "help bury the body", and they laughed about this together. Michael stated he had just learned about the missing girl on the Tuesday prior to that. He once again indicated he thought Steven might have been the last one to see the missing girl." End of the relevant paragraph.
Although the following one sentence paragraph says, "According to Michael, Steven stated people go missing all the time and this girl may have left, or May, quote, "have left for Mexico." Period, close quote.
Now, although we have been told that Bobby is in the garage at the same time, there is no indication that Bobby overhears the statement. Moreover, there was a different context for the Statement laid cut here than what Bobby gave. That is, Michael himself is joking with Steven, jesting with him about having the girl in the closet. This is clearly a joking response to the jest.
We have "help bury the body", instead of "help get rid of the body". But, most significant of all, this conversation clearly takes place on Thursday, November tenth, 2005, not Thursday, November 3, 2005. And Michael Osmunson says he had just learned about the missing girl on the Tuesday prior to that. Well, that has to be Tuesday, November eighth, because on November 1, no one had reported Teresa Halbach missing.
I was not concerned about Michael Osmunson being a witness in this case. Why? Because Steven Avery was arrested on November 9, 2005, and he has been continuously in custody since then, and was not in the Dassey garage, or Janda garage, or anyone else's garage, on Thursday, November 10, 2005.
Now we have a different witness, to whom this statement has never been attributed, of which we have no summary identifying him as someone who overheard the statement, or identifying a Statement, as having been Bobby Dassey, as the individual identified, or critically identifying the statement as having been made on November 3, as a time when Steven Avery was not in custody, was at home, or in the salvage yard property, and the implication is this may have been before Teresa Halbach even is reported missing. In large part, that implication arises because we didn't have the joke that was made to Steven Avery as the precursor of this. So, what I'm left with is this jury having heard testimony from the first blood relative of Mr. Avery to testify here, his nephew and next-door neighbor, that amounts to a confession of a crime, and under the circumstances, although, technically, because Bobby is listed in the report of contact with Michael Osmunson, technically, the discovery statute here may have been complied with. I have not looked at the case law under the discovery Statutes, but, setting that aside, this comes as an unfair surprise.
It's materially different than the summary or the statement of which we have been given notice. There is no way to unwind this from the juror's minds. It has enormous unfair prejudicial impact. I can think of no remedy, short of asking for a mistrial, on the introduction of this testimony by the State on the direct examination of Bobby Dassey, without having been invited by the defense, or the defense otherwise having opened the door, or done anything to which you could say this would be an invited response.
I move, therefore, for a mistrial on the grounds I have explained.
THE COURT: Mr. Kratz?
MR. KRATZ: Well, Judge, after Mr. Strang concedes that the discovery statute was complied with, or I guess in his words, "may very well have been complied with", I will leave the legal analysis to the Court. A summary of this conversation was provided, and although it appears that this Michael fellow got the Thursday wrong, as far as being the third versus the tenth, because Mr. Strang is correct, that as of the tenth, Steven Avery was in custody.
This witness did testify consistently with what the story was, that he believed his Uncle Steven was joking, that it was said in a joking Manner, and, if Mr. Strang wishes to inquire as to the context of it, he may do so on cross examination. That is what cross examination is for.
It certainly does not rise to the level of material that requires a mistrial. We would ask that the Court not do that.
THE COURT: Before I go back to Mr. Strang, did I understand that the State indicated they gave that to the defense, not only the Michael Osmunson statement, but also information that Mr. Dassey would testify as he did today? I thought that is what I heard you start to say.
MR. KRATZ: No, he got it from -- He got page 259, with all of the other discovery, including Mr. Dassey's. TI don't know if the conversation is included in Mr. Dassey's report, but it was in Mr. Osmunson's on page 259,
MR. STRANG: This page 259 is the only notice I had of any discovery, any conversation, of anything at all in any form. Indeed, I had asked for any statements of Bobby Dassey. TI see no mention of a Mike, or Michael, or Michael Osmunson, anywhere in the report itself, that concerns what Bobby Dassey had to say. So, there, I will tell you this caught me completely unaware.
THE COURT: Mr. Kratz, I guess I am not sure, what was the State expecting, that Mr. Dassey was going to testify to a different date today, to the tenth, rather than the third?
MR. KRATZ: I don't understand the question, Judge. It was the third. This witness testified that this conversation with Mike, because Steven was not in custody then, this witness testified it was on the third.
THE COURT: Right. But it's my understanding, from what I have been told, and you folks have the benefit of that here, I have not seen the report, that is the report from Mr. Osmunson, that indicated the conversation took place on the tenth.
MR. KRATZ: We will probably have to get page 259. I don't have that in here. Perhaps I can make a better record about that. Perhaps the Court can read all of page 259.
MR. STRANG: Mr. Buting, I think, can go across the hall to the Clerk's office, and get copies of page 259 for everyone, including the Court, and counsel for the State.
THE COURT: All right. We will take our break. Somebody can have the document brought back to my chambers. TF will take a look at it.
MR. KRATZ: That's fine. Thank you.
(After a short recess, the following proceedings took place in the courtroom, outside of the presence of the jury.)
THE COURT: You may be seated. Is there anything further from either party concerning the defense motion?
MR. STRANG: I have one thing to add, Your Honor. This is because this is serious, and I want to get it right. I did not say this until I double- checked on the break.
But the further reason that I was not concerned, and set aside the possibility of the Osmunson statement, or the oral statement of the defendant, through Osmunson coming in, is that the State does not list Michael Osmunson on their witness list. Neither did the defense. His name, nowhere, appears on either party's witness list, and what we have here then, on reviewing this, is a materially different Statement, made at an entirely different time, and impossible to have been made on the day that Mr. Osmunson Says it was made that day.
So, it's not entirely consistent, in the sense that he expresses no uncertainty about it having been November tenth, Thursday, and says that is because he had learned of Teresa Halbach being missing on the preceding Tuesday, which only could mean not earlier than Tuesday, November eighth, as the Court notes. On that record, I can stand.
THE COURT: Mr. Kratz?
MR. KRATZ: Thank you, Judge. First of all, the Court needs to note there was no violation, at least a statutory discovery violation. The fact that Mr. Strang indicates the impossibility of November tenth, '05, as being the date of this conversation, actually plays in the State's favor, and does beg the question: Why the defense is claiming surprise?
Why didn't they do something with this statement? The defense had this information available to them. If the context, and the subject matter, and if the dates are wrong, there are many remedies available to the defense. They could nave interviewed Osmunson, and apparently have chosen not to. They certainly have had access to Bobby Dassey, and the entire Dassey family, and I don't eno if - Mr. Strang has indicated, or is representing that they did not interview Bobby Dassey, but that, I think, should be part of the record, as well.
Secondly, and next, it's important to note, the jury is not going to be misled at all in this case. A mistrial is reserved, as this Court knows, in serious cases of prosecutorial misconduct, or breach, or when some other remedy 1s not going to be available. Given the fact there is no violation, no discovery violation, certainly a mistrial is not at all appropriate.
Let me offer, if there are concerns that the Court still has, if the Court believes that, on cross-examination, cannot be dealt with, Mr. Strang Still has available to him, either: To interview . Mr. Dassey, if the Court wants to grant a brief continuance. Or to have Mr. Dassey come back, to shore this up. Or interview Mr. Osmunson. Or to secure Mr. Osmunson's appearance.
But the notice of the conversation was provided. The fact that defense did nothing with it, the fact that defense failed to interview, or failed to appreciate, even if every belief was that it was ina joking manner, the poor joke, that the off-color remark that Mr. Avery apparently made, regarding the remains of Ms. Halbach, I think that is something perhaps that the defense should have done. But it's not something the Court should attribute to the State. Nor should a mistrial be the remedy that the Court chooses in this case. That is all I have, Judge. Thank you.
THE COURT: Mr. Strang?
MR. STRANG: First, we have not interviewed Bobby Dassey. Second, the report, which the Court now has a copy of, and I ask to be made part of the court record as a Court Exhibit, again, is that he, Michael, and Bobby were inside the Dassey garage, but, from that point forward, describes this as a conversation between Michael and Steven.
So, the remedy here is not to repeat this statement, again and again in front of the jury, or call another witness to change the date. the comedy here is a mistrial, or something that effectively would erase this testimony from the jury's consideration, because, again, it's a materially different statement, under different circumstances, on a different date. That has an all-together different meaning, and it becomes something a killer would have done, as we sit here.
As the statement was presented to us, it was impossible to have been made. It was false on its face. So, if there were a remedy, short of a mistrial, and I don't think that there is. But if there were a remedy, short of that, it would be something like the Court instructing the members of the jury that testimony was given concerning a statement that Mr. Avery supposedly made to Bobby and Mike, his friend, on November 3, and that the statement was not made, the testimony was false.
It was not made, and the testimony about it was false, and at that point, the Court, I think, if it were going to adopt a remedy, short of a mistrial, would roll into it, with that instruction, and connect it with the Falsus in Uno Instruction, about Bobby Dassey's testimony, inviting, but not instructing the jury that it may disregard, as false, all of Bobby Dassey's testimony because of his false testimony on this point.
I don't know if that would suffice, but that comes much closer to a remedy than repeating it, and, you know, remaking the statement over and over, again, on cross examination, or with another witness, in front of the jury.
I don't have case law at hand, on whether the page 259 of the Calumet County Sheriff's Department report, technically, suffices under Section 971.23(1) (b) or not. I'm assuming here, for the sake of argument, because we are told that Bobby is somewhere in the garage when the statement purportedly is made, I'm assuming, for the sake of argument, that the State is just on the right side of the line on discovery.
But, I have also laid out the practical problems, and a good argument could be made, and I will make it, if there is case law to Support it, a good argument can be made that the statement testified to here is so materially different in date, time, and content, than the statement of which we were given notice, that they are not the same oral statement. But, in any event, I don't think the Court has to resolve that. The damages and the problems are clear, and are serious.
THE COURT: All right. The Starting point here is the discovery statute, Section 971.23(1) (b). That statute requires that the prosecution provide to the defense a written summary of all oral statements of the defendant. That would be statements of Mr. Avery, which the District Attorney plans to use in the course of the trial, and the names of witnesses, who the defendant made the oral statements to.
In this case, the Court is Satisfied that, at least, literally, that statute has been complied with, that the disputed testimony involves a Statement attributed to the defendant, and there is no dispute that the discovery information provided by the State to the defense included information indicating that both Mr. Osmunson and Bobby Dassey were present at the time the defendant made the statement.
What is different is the date on which the statement was made, and as noted by defense counsel in his argument, that can have a Significant difference here, because it can affect the credibility of the statements themselves.
I would note at the outset that, in terms of assessing the problems presented to the defense here, both from page 259 which was presented to the Court, and based on the testimony of Mr. Dassey, both of the witnesses to the defendant's statement indicated that they thought he was just joking at the time. That is another element in which the information provided to the defense and the testimony given today on the witness stand are consistent with each other.
I do agree that I would not fault the defense, saying they didn't take the opportunity to Simply follow up on the information on page 259, because by reading page 259, they would have been led to believe that the information contained could have been easily attacked, on the basis the defendant could not have made that statement on November tenth.
But they did have information to suggest the statement was made. It's not unusual for a witness to be mistaken about dates.
In the Court's opinion, I think that the defense is entitled to some consideration in the form of having an adequate Opportunity to prepare to cross examine the witness about the statement that was made today.
I don't believe, first of all, there was, strictly speaking, a violation. And, secondly, given the nature of the testimony, that the statement was made in jest, it would not rise to the level of something that would warrant the granting of a mistrial.
The Court would be inclined to grant the defense an opportunity, first of all, to cross examine the witness, in an attempt to attack the statement today, if the defense wishes. The Court will also require the State to make the witness available for the defense to consult at a later date, if the defense feels it needs additional time in which to prepare to cross examine the witness on this issue.
The Court may also consider giving an instruction to the jury at some later point, if it is deemed to be warranted. But I think it's premature at this stage to speculate as to whether Or not such an instruction may be required, or what the content of such an instructions might be.
So, I am giving the defense an alternative opportunity. You are free to cross examine the witness today. You are free to also, if you cross examine him today, to have him brought back at a later date, after you have had more time to digest the testimony today. You can also postpone your cross examination of the witness, if you wish.