3.Leslie Eisenberg — Direct/Cross
320 linesMR. FALLON: State would call Leslie Eisenberg.
COURT CLERK: Please raise your right hand.
LESLIE EISENBERG, called as a witness herein, having been first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:
COURT CLERK: Please be seated. Please state your name and spell your last name for the record.
LESLIE EISENBERG: My name is Leslie Eisenberg, E-i-s-e-n-b-e-r-g.
DIRECT EXAMINATION BY ATTORNEY FALLON:
MR. FALLON: What is your occupation?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I am currently employed at the Wisconsin Historical Society as the program coordinator for the State of Wisconsin's Burial Sites Preservation Program. I am also, um, privately employed as a forensic anthropologist.
MR. FALLON: What is a forensic anthropologist?
LESLIE EISENBERG: A forensic anthropologist is someone who has had, uh, training in anthropology, and, specifically, ina subfield called physical anthropology, um, that looks at human variation, how we are the same and different from each other, um, with a specific focus on, uh, anatomy and the study and understanding of -- of human remains as it applies in a legal context.
MR. FALLON: All right. Doctor, uh, how is it that you are involved in this case?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I was requested, um -- My assistance was requested by the Calumet County, uh -- by Calumet County law enforcement, to provide assistance, um, looking at human remains that, uh, were recovered in November of 2005.
MR. FALLON: And, um, you are here today to do what?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I am here today to explain my findings, and, uh, also here today to render several opinions, uh, notably, about the sex and age of the remains of the individual I examined, as well as rendering an opinion as to the manner of death. Uh, how, um -- how the person, uh, whose remains I examined, um, died.
MR. FALLON: Before we do that, um, if we could, uh, talk a little bit about, um, your background and training.
Um, first of all, beginning with your educational experience, um, what degrees do you hold?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I hold a, um, Bachelor's Degree in anthropology, a Master's Degree in anthropology, a Ph.D, ora Doctorate, in anthropology. Um, and I am also a board certified forensic anthropologist. One of 75 in the country.
MR. FALLON: What does board certified mean?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Board -- Uh, being called a board certified forensic anthropologist, um, means that you've jumped through a lot of hoops and have had your work, um, carefully scrutinized, um, by members on the American Board of Forensic Anthropology. Uh, in order to receive the title of what's called, diplomate, uh, which really means board certification, one must, uh, submit case reports for evaluation by the board. And the board then will determine whether or not you are fit, um, or ready to sit for an all-day examination, uh, the morning of which involves a written examination, and the afternoon is a hands-on practical examination involving the examination, analysis, and interpretation of bone in, uh, many different conditions, um, much of it fragmentary.
MR. FALLON: What, if you would, um, are some of the key positions or responsibilities that you have held in the field of forensic anthropology that assist you in performing that work?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Uh, notably, I was a consultant for the Office of Chief Medical Examiner of New York from 1986 until 1993, when I moved to Wisconsin, um, to take the position as program coordinator for the Wisconsin Historical Society's Burial Sites Preservation Program, where I have occasion, on a fairly regular basis, to examine and identify human bone, animal bone, and so on, for law enforcement. Most of that bone comes from archaeological or older context.
Uh, I also, since 1995, have been a member of a federal disaster team, a regional federal disaster team, that goes by the -- the acronym DMORT, D-M-O-R-T, which stands for Disaster Mortuary Operational Response Team.
And in that capacity I have been deployed on several occasions. Uh, the earliest of which was in 1999, uh, at the site of an Amtrak train crash in Bourbonnais, Illinois, where there were fatalities primarily as a result of, uh, um, a fire in the sleeping car of -- of that train.
Um, after that, I was asked, uh, immediately after the World Trade Center attacks on September 11, to be one of the first teams to respond to the east coast disaster, um, where I : had occasion to work to identify, um, and examine, uh, fragmentary human and nonhuman remains. Many of those remains, uh, had been exposed to considerable trauma, uh, and burning, as you might imagine.
And, more recently, in September of 2005, I had occasion to be called or deployed down to Mississippi after the, uh, Hurricane Katrina, and at the same time, Hurricane Rita, uh, came through, to help identify remains, um, of, uh, individuals who died, uh, during the hurricane, as well as collecting and identifying skeletonized human remains that had been washed out of cemeteries, uh, in-ground burials as well as above ground mausoleums.
MR. FALLON: All right. And, um, so that we're -- How long have you held your board certification in the field of forensic anthropology?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Four ten years now. I received that certification in, uh, 1997.
MR. FALLON: Um, in addition to the, um, DMORT, uh, appointments and status, have you received any other, um, noteworthy appointments?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Um, yes, I have. Um, I have, um -- May -- Are you talking about memberships or -- If you can clarify for me --
MR. FALLON: Sure. In the, uh -- In the field of forensic anthropology, are -- are you -- there are some appointments or memberships of groups that you find particularly pertinent that assist you in conducting your work?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Understood. Thank you for that clarification. Uh, from 1999 through 2005 I was an elected board member for the American Board of Forensic Anthropology, and for the last three years of that six-year appointment, I was elected secretary of that board.
MR. FALLON: Do you have any particularly, um, uh -- Well, let's ask it this way. Do you have any publications in the field of forensic anthropology?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, I do, sir.
MR. FALLON: Tell us about those?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Um, some of those publications are jointly authored by others with whom I've worked. Um, they appear in what is the preeminent journal in the field of forensic anthropology, which is called the Journal of Forensic Sciences.
Uh, I also have a number of other publications, uh, that span the, um -- the fields of archaeology and forensic anthropology that are specifically focused on human remains and the identification of human remains.
MR. FALLON: I'm going to have, uh, Investigator Wiegert show you Exhibit 199.
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: All right. And do you recognize that?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, I do. It's my resumé, or what, uh, is referred to in the academic field as a curriculum vitae, a history, um, of your accomplishments, if you will.
MR. FALLON: And did you prepare that?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I did.
MR. FALLON: Is that a true and accurate summary of your educational training and professional experience in both, um, uh, forensic anthropology and otherwise?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, it is.
MR. FALLON: Very good. All right, Doctor. Directing your attention, then, to this particular case, when did you become involved in this case?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I initially became involved in this case through a telephone message that was left for me on November 9 of 2005.
MR. FALLON: What were you asked to do?
LESLIE EISENBERG: The, um, contents of that voicemail message that was left for me was, uh, that some remains had been found, um, and I was, uh, asked to examine those remains that had been left for me, uh, in a sealed, uh, container in my office awaiting my return.
Uh, at the time I received that call on November 9, I was in transit back to Madison from a, uh, um, national, um, conference on missing persons in Denver, Colorado. I was one of several people at the time who was representing the state of Wisconsin at that conference.
MR. FALLON: And what were the tasks? What, specifically, were you asked to do, um, by law enforcement?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I was asked to examine, um, items that were in a, um, flat, uh, cardboard box that had been sealed with evidence tape when I received it. Um, and I was asked to identify if any of -- of the items in that box were of human origin.
MR. FALLON: I'm going to have Investigator Wiegert bring you a series of photographs.
LESLIE EISENBERG: Thank you.
MR. FALLON: I believe the first photograph there is marked as Exhibit 183. We'll have that displayed on the screen in a moment. Um, let me ask, do you recognize that?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I do.
MR. FALLON: All right. And what is, um, depicted in Exhibit 183?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I, along with other investigators, are sorting, uh, through material that was collected, um, uh, from the Steven Avery property, and -- and we are looking through this material, uh, with the objective of looking for any human remains or other objects of significance that had been collected from that property.
MR. FALLON: Tell us a little bit about that process that's depicted in the photograph, if you would?
LESLIE EISENBERG: The process, uh, that I used to, um, examine all the material presented to me for examination, um, is a fairly systematic process, and a process that every forensic anthropologist goes through.
And -- And the first thing that I do, uh, and the major contribution that any forensic anthropologist can make to an investigation like this, involves, um, the recognition and sorting of human bone, and in this case burned human bone, from burned and unbone -- unburned, uh, nonhuman bone.
The next step in that process is looking at the burned human bone that has been sorted out to see if there are any diagnostic or telling, um, attributes or traits on any of those fragments, um, that can tell the anthropologist something about whose remains you are looking at.
The next step in the process is taking those diagnostic fragments and developing what we call in the field a biological profile. And what that means is determining, if you can, the age of the individual, the sex of the individual, the stature of the individual, how tall they were, um, and the ancestry, if possible.
Also, uh, critically important is to determine, um, if there's anything else you can tell from those diagnostic fragments, including the presence of any trauma to those remains, uh, that may have been sustained or may have occurred in what we call the antemortem interval, the interval before death, the perimortem interval,
p-e-r-i-m-o-r-t-e-m, and that simply means at or near the time of death, or in the postmortem interval, uh, during a time after death.
And, um, the other activity that I undertook with these burn fragments was trying to see if I could refit any of those fragments with each other.
MR. FALLON: Very well. What is the -- the next photograph? I believe would be Exhibit 184; is that correct?
LESLIE EISENBERG: That is correct.
MR. FALLON: And what is depicted in Exhibit 184?
LESLIE EISENBERG: That is, uh, a photo of myself and some other investigators looking through additional material that had been collected for the presence of any human remains, bone fragments, dental structures, or anything else that we considered significant.
MR. FALLON: All right. And the next photograph? Exhibit 185, I believe?
LESLIE EISENBERG: That is correct.
MR. FALLON: All right.
LESLIE EISENBERG: Exhibit 185 represents, um, the interior and contents of the box that was initially left for me for examination on November 9 of 2005 that I had the opportunity to initially examine the following day on November 10, 2005.
MR. FALLON: All right. Let's stop there for a moment and talk a little bit about the -- the box and its contents. What were the condition of those contents? The bones that you -- or -- or fragments, is probably the best way of describing it, when --
LESLIE EISENBERG: Well --
MR. FALLON: you looked at them?
LESLIE EISENBERG: As I look in this photograph and -- and on the screen, what I can see, and what I saw at the time, are, um, fragments of material, some of which were, um, clearly identifiable as human bone fragments that were. heavily burned and, in some cases, calcined. Some of the bone that you see that looks white in color, um, is what we call calcined.
Um, it is, um -- It represents bone that has lost its moisture content, because all bone, um, has -- has fat content, has moisture content, has blood running through it, and when it's exposed to heat, and considerable heat, that moisture, and the blood, and the -- and the fatty tissue, the marrow, um, will all dry up, and the bone, itself, the or -- the organic content of the bone, um, what makes bone, bone, um, also disappears. And the bone -- calcined bone becomes, um, almost like a piece of porcelain or ceramic in that if you, um, knock it against a table, it will sound very much like a piece of porcelain.
MR. FALLON: In terms of -- As a forensic anthropologist, who often is called upon to attempt identification of remains, are there varying levels or degrees of destruction that you forensic anthropologists utilize to categorize exactly the condition of the items you're examining?
LESLIE EISENBERG: We do. Um, in 1996, there was, um, a very basic scheme developed, uh, by a forensic anthropologist from Texas, and a colleague of his. Um, it -- it's known as the Crow-Glassman Scales. C-r-o-w, hyphen, Glassman, G-l-a-s-s-m-a-n. And what Crow and Glassman did was set up a five-stage, or five-level scheme, if you will, that talks about increasing levels of burning on bone.
Uh, level one, for example, would involve a body that was charred, but would be visually recognizable, um, to, uh, people who know -- knew him or her, or to family members.
And that starts with level one and goes up to level five, and, increasingly, um, there is, uh, more destruction to the body. The body then becomes unrecognizable. Um, and, um, level five is, uh -- depicts the body in a state that is primarily only recognizable, because of its fragmentation and burning, to forensic anthropologists and forensic dentists.
MR. FALLON: And in nip particular -- And in this particular case, what was the level or condition of the, uh, fragments you were asked to examine?
LESLIE EISENBERG: In -- In my opinion, the fragments that I was asked to examine, that I identified as -- as, uh, burned human fragments, would have fallen into that last category, um, the most destructive category, level five.
MR. FALLON: All right. Is this what is sometimes referred to as the ultimate level of destruction?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Uh, by some auth -- authors, yes, it is.
MR. FALLON: In this particular case, of all the fragments that you examined, did -- you were -- were you able to locate any, um, human skull fragments?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I -- I was able to.
MR. FALLON: A -- A -- Approximately, how many fragments were you able to locate?
LESLIE EISENBERG: There were --
MR. FALLON: Or identify?
LESLIE EISENBERG: There were approximately 58 fragments that were, um, identifiable as human and diagnostic to the point that I could say these fragments came from a human skull.
MR. FALLON: In terms of, um -- How much of a human skull was
repre -- was represented by those 58 fragments? Rough estimate, if you have one?
LESLIE EISENBERG: A rough estimate, um, I would say, perhaps, a quarter, and that may be an exaggerated estimate.
MR. FALLON: Could be less?
LESLIE EISENBERG: It could be less.
MR. FALLON: All right, Doctor, let's begin with some of your conclusions or findings. First, based on your examination of the bones recovered from the pit behind the garage of Steven Avery, did you find evidence of human remains?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I did.
MR. FALLON: And were they in, um -- Were you able to identify the relative age of the person whose remains you examined?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, I was able to determine a relative age of -- of the person whose remains I did examine.
MR. FALLON: Tell us about that, please?
LESLIE EISENBERG: There are, um, many techniques that forensic anthropologists use to determine someone's age, um, when remains are unrecognizable and either too decomposed or, um, skeletonized for a traditional, um, autopsy.
Um, in this case, there, um -- Because of the fragmentation and burning, um, many of -- of the characteristics or traits we look at to make that determination, um, were not present or not recognizable because of the condition of the remains.
But there were several areas, um, of the face, um, skull, if you will, and what we call the postcranial remains, the remains below the skull, that were able to help me come to a determination of an approximate age of the individual whose remains I examined.
MR. FALLON: And what was that?
LESLIE EISENBERG: My determination was that the remains of the individual I examined were no older than 30 to 35 years of age.
MR. FALLON: All right. If you could explain for us that -- that range, that step, you just gave us, 30 to 35, in terms of the field of forensic anthropology and identification, what does that mean or represent?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Well, what that means to all of us, really, is that once we, um -- as we age, and at about the year -- the age of about 30 to 35, um, our body starts showing signs of wear, and that wear is -- is degenerative. In other words, it's something that happens with use, as -- as we use our bodies to do lots of things. And that's at about the time when forensic anthropologists can pick up signs of arthritis, or what's sometimes called degenerative joint disease, on many parts of the skeleton.
Um, what I did note, from the joint surfaces that were present to examine, was that there were absolutely no traces of the beginnings of arthritis, um, which allowed me to cap the age as no older than 30 to 35 years.
Um, I also had an opportunity in looking at the skull fragments, um -- And some of those fragments had suture lines. Um, when we think of the skull, we may think of a -- a -- a ball-like structure, or a sphere-like structure, but, in fact, our skulls are made up of many joi -- uh, bones that come together at what are kind of joints. They're not like a shoulder joint or a hip joint, but it's where the bones fit together, almost like teeth in a zipper in -- in some places, and -- and those openings, called sutures, where those bones come together, uh, had not fused, um, which is something you typically see as someone, uh -- in someone who's much older than 30 to 35.
MR. FALLON: All right. So, in effect, then, you're telling us the -- these are the remains of a person who's under age 30?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: All right. Were you able to determine the sex of the person by the remains which were recovered?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I was.
MR. FALLON: And what -- what did you conclude?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Based on examining certain diagnostic fragments, I was able to determine that the remains presented to me for analysis, those fragmented and burned remains, were those of a female.
MR. FALLON: All right. I'm going to have, uh, uh, the next exhibit, I believe the photograph is in front of you, it should be at 186?
LESLIE EISENBERG: That's correct, sir.
MR. FALLON: We have that now on the screen. Um, does this, uh, photograph assist you in explaining why you concluded these were the remains of a female?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Uh, this -- this image, um, is -- is one of the areas I looked at in the body that allowed me to make that conclusion.
MR. FALLON: All right. Tell us about that?
LESLIE EISENBERG: What --
MR. FALLON: Now -- Now, there is a laser pointer. It should be right next to the --
LESLIE EISENBERG: Ah, yes.
MR. FALLON: -- witness box?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Thank you.
MR. FALLON: And if you would probably use the larger screen to point, it might work better.
LESLIE EISENBERG: Okay.
MR. FALLON: Are those shovels in the way? Rakes?
LESLIE EISENBERG: No, they are -- they're not. Um, what we are looking at in -- Here we go. What we are looking at in this image are fragments from, um -- from a face, and we are looking at these fragments as if we are looking at someone face to face. And so let me point out some of the landmarks to you to help you orient what it is you're looking at.
Um, this area here represents the top of the left eye socket. This fragmentary bone, um, and this eye -- the top of the eye socket, is actually part of the bone that continues up to begin -- to become the forehead. So we have the top of the left eye socket, the left half of the nose. The nasal bones are two in number. And what this fragment is, is the left half of the nasal bones.
These are fragments from the right -- what would be the area above the right eye socket.
This is a complete -- and one of the few complete -- bones that I actually had an opportunity to examine. A complete right cheekbone. And while the placement may be a little off in this photo, what you are looking at here is the lower portion of the right eye socket.
This is a fragmentary portion of the left cheekbone, and a portion of a bone that runs from the left cheekbone over and above the left open -- the opening for the left ear.
MR. FALLON: All right. If we could go to the next exhibit, uh, 187?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: And what are we looking at here?
LESLIE EISENBERG: What we are looking at here is a closeup of -- of a portion of what we saw in the previous graphic. Excuse me. Again, this -- the top of the left eye socket, the portion of what then continues up to be the forehead, or what we call the frontal bone, and the left half of the nose at -- this would be the area that we would refer to as the bridge of the nose. This is the left half of the two nasal bones.
MR. FALLON: All right. Now, with respect to the last two exhibits, 186 and 187, what is it about them that specifically assists you in, um, identifying these remains as a female?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Fairly diagnostic, or telling, to any forensic anthropologist, or any biological anthropologist, is that there are certain shapes that, um, are characteristically female in the skeleton, and other shapes, what we call morphology, that are characteristically male. And one of those key locations that anthropologists look at, um, is actually the top of the eye socket.
In females, that rim, or ridge, is fairly sharp and -- and, um, does not protrude. In male skulls, that area, that edge, is very blunt, and you often see heavy bone development over the eye sockets. And we don't see that here. I don't see that here. And what I see in terms of morphology, and shape, and general bone architecture to the facial bones, but especially above the left eye socket, uh, leads me to conclude that these facial bones and, in particular, this bone here, um, comes from a female.
MR. FALLON: All right. Now, um, Doctor, during the course of preparing, um, and in reviewing the matters of this case, did you have occasion to work with a Tim Austin from the Wisconsin State Patrol?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I did.
MR. FALLON: And did he assist you with some of the, um, exhibits that we're about to see?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, he did.
MR. FALLON: All right. If you would, uh, take your attention to the next, uh, photograph? All right. And this is Exhibit 188?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: And what are we looking at here with Exhibit 188?
LESLIE EISENBERG: What we are looking at here is a graphic depiction, um, of not a real skull, but a -- a computer-generated skull, and, um, the arrows and the descriptions on this graphic point to the areas of the skull and the facial bones that have been recovered, and identified by me, and described to you, in the previous slides.
MR. FALLON: And that -- I see there's a notation, Evidence Tag 8318. Is that at all referenced to the box that we previously examined?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir. The area, uh -- We don't see all of it here, but the identifier for this particular slide that says, Evidence Tag 831 -- and we'll wait for the 8 to show up -- 8318, was the, um, evidence tag identifier for that white opened box we saw earlier on. Uh, the material that was illit -- initially collected and, um, the material that I initially examined and sorted through.
MR. FALLON: All right. All right. Next exhibit, please? Should be Exhibit 189?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: All right. And, um, if you would, what is depicted here?
LESLIE EISENBERG: What is depicted here, through the work of, uh, Trooper Tim Austin, um, are two, um, computer-generated skeletons. Um, the one on the left represents that of a female, and the one on the right, that of a male.
MR. FALLON: All right. And, um, in terms of the, uh, eye sockets, if you'd take a moment to, um, highlight the distinctions that you've just been talking about?
LESLIE EISENBERG: In the fragmentary skull and facial bones that were recovered, the area that I was pointing out a little bit earlier was just above the left eye socket and above, uh, the bridge of the nose. In this female skeleton, on the left, I hope you can appreciate, um, the roundedness and the sharpness of the rim, or the top edge, of that left eye socket.
MR. FALLON: Would it help if we zoomed in on that?
LESLIE EISENBERG: It may for the jury, sir. This area in particular, um, is a hallmark of, um, what anthropologists recognize, or identify, as -- as coming from a female skeleton, because it's a relative, um, um, gracileness or, um, I guess sharpness, and -- and, um, smoothness of that edge. In contrast to what we would see in a typical male skeleton, um, here's the bridge of the nose, the top of the left eye socket, and I hope you can appreciate or see, um, the area here where above the left eye socket there's a considerable buildup of bone, um, and, as well, the edge or the shape of the top of the eye socket is much more rounded and substantial.
MR. FALLON: Doctor, um, although you determined the relative age and -- and sex of the person, were you able to determine, um, ancestry or stature of the person after your examination of the remains?
LESLIE EISENBERG: No, sir, I was not. And that was, uh, because of the extreme fragmentation and burning that did not allow me to reconstruct, um, some of the long bones. In particular, the thigh bone that I would typically measure to develop a -- a stature estimate.
Likewise, many of the landmarks that I would use to determine ancestry or racial affiliation, uh, were not present because of that fragmentation.
MR. FALLON: All right. As a forensic anthropologist, are you familiar with the concepts of cause and manner of death?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I am.
MR. FALLON: Um, first of all, tell us, um, are you frequently asked to render opinions on, uh, for instance, cause or, perhaps, manner of death?
LESLIE EISENBERG: More often, and most often, I am asked to render opinions as to what's called manner of death. By what mechanism did someone die? Less often, cause of death, because often that's the purview of a forensic pathologist. But in cases like this, where the remains are so fragmentary and, uh, are too fragmentary, um, for a traditional autopsy, it often falls to the forensic anthropologists to make a determination about what's called cause of death and manner of death.
MR. FALLON: All right. Then in your field of forensic anthropology, what is the difference between cause and manner of death, if you would explain for us?
LESLIE EISENBERG: As it's generally understood in -- in, uh, forensic anthropology, cause of death is, um, fairly explicit. In other words, what did the person die from?
Manner of death, however, speaks to the mechanism. What caused the death? How did the person die?
MR. FALLON: All right. Can you give us an example, for instance, of a distinction that you might commonly run across in -- in your forensic work?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Oh, I guess cause of death, um, if -- if I pretended to be a forensic pathologist for a minute, um, might be, um, heart attack, or tuberculosis.
Um, a manner of death, um, for a heart attack, might be, um, accidental. Manner of . death, uh -- in general, there are four different categories, um, that are understood when we talk about manner of death. And, um, one of those categories can be a natural death, which might result from a heart attack.
A second category of manner of death might be considered accidental. Did someone fall off a ladder, um, hit their head, uh, or sustain a spinal injury and die accidentally?
Um, a third manner of death is suicide.
And fourth, most commonly recognized, is homicide.
MR. FALLON: Is there sometimes a fifth? Such as unexplained?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Unexplained. Or sometimes even a sixth, uh, being undetermined.
MR. FALLON: Okay. Based upon your training and experience -- Excuse me. Based upon your training and experience, and the examination that you conducted in this case, do you have an opinion as to the manner of death of the individual whose remains you examined?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I do.
MR. FALLON: What is that opinion?
LESLIE EISENBERG: It is my opinion that the remains of the individual I examined died as a result of -- of a homicide, and, in particular, homicidal -- what I am calling homicidal violence.
MR. FALLON: All right. Now, during the course of this investigation, um, did you have an opportunity, uh, to meet and consult with a -- a physician by the name of Jeffrey Jentzen?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I did.
MR. FALLON: And who is Jeffrey Jentzen?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Dr. Jeffrey Jentzen is a very well-known and well-respected forensic anthropologist who is the medical examiner for Milwaukee County, Wisconsin.
MR. FALLON: All right. And just, generally, then, the distinction between a forensic pathologist, and a forensic anthropologist, which you are, just, briefly, what's the difference?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Well, if you ask a forensic pathologist what the difference is, their first answer will be that they, uh, have been to medical school. They are real doctors. And forensic anthropologists are fake doctors, because they only have a Ph.D. But, in general, um, uh, forensic pathologists are doctors who specialize, uh, in pathology and who have further training and certification in a field called forensic pathology, or pathology, um, that is applied in legal context.
Um, they typically perform autopsies on, um, all types of remains, most of which, I would say, are recognizable. The -- the people can be visually recognizable. Sometimes those individuals, um, have died as a result of a burning episode, or a drowning, um, or any other, um, type of -- of, um, activity.
MR. FALLON: All right. And, um, did you and Dr. Jentzen look at, um, several of the cranial fragments during the course of this investigation?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, on one occasion.
MR. FALLON: Very well. Um, I'd like to return, again, to your opinion regarding homicidal violence, and ask you, why do you believe, based on your examination, that that is the correct or accurate manner of death?
LESLIE EISENBERG: After having examined all the fragments, and, uh, you have just seen one box of 50 different containers that I had the opportunity to, uh, sort through to distinguish human from nonhuman bone, um, to look for diagnostic human elements, to look for human bone that may have showed signs of trauma, to try and refit fragments that may have come from any one of 50 different containers, there were two, uh, skull fragments, in particular, that, to me, showed clear and, uh, unquestionable evidence for, uh, what I consider antemortem, or before death, uh, trauma.
MR. FALLON: All right. Um, was there anything about the, uh -- the fact that the fragments were burned or calcined that attributed to your opinion on homicidal violence?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Well, I think anytime, um, remains are burned beyond recognition, um, and, um, that burning is not of an accidental nature, I think that the fact that these remains came primarily from a burn pit, um, that the fact that someone attempted to obscure the identity of another individual through burning, certainly could be considered, um, part of that umbrella heading, homicidal violence.
MR. FALLON: All right. Doctor, would you look at the next, uh, photograph? This is marked, I believe, as Exhibit 190?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: What are we looking at in Exhibit 190?
LESLIE EISENBERG: We are looking at something that's probably unrecognizable to everyone in this courtroom except myself. There are two skull fragments here. We are looking at the internal side of two skull bones that -- actually, three skull bones. I was able to refit these two bones together along this, uh, fracture break, as well as a third fragment that fits along this edge.
These are three fragments from the left side of a human skull, um, and one of those fragments shows, uh, evidence that I believe would speak to my determination of homicidal violence.
MR. FALLON: All right. If you would take the, um, uh, pointer and describe for us what it is you're looking at?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir. Um, the reason I know that this is the inside of a human skull, are these vessel impressions, these blood vessel impressions, that kind of look like spider webs, or an aerial view of a -- of.a road network somewhere in this country.
Um, the vessels that run along the inside of the skull actually sit in these channels, and, um, the positioning of these channels, and the direction of these channels, actually allows me to make a determination as to whether this bone comes from the left side of the skull or the right side of the skull.
These three bones are all part of a bone called the parietal bone. P-a-r-i-e-t-a-l. And we have a parietal bone on the left side of our skull and a corresponding, or mirror, parietal bone on the right side of our skull.
MR. FALLON: All right. And what is it about the indentation at the top of the picture here which is of significance to you in your opinion on homicidal violence?
LESLIE EISENBERG: When I looked at this fragment, there was an area of this fragment that caught my attention almost immediately, and it's this area here that I believed was quite significant with respect to a -- a determination of -- of hom -- homicidal violence.
To me, based on my experience, this would be considered what's called internal beveling. Now, remember, we're looking inside the skull at this moment, and where the hard compact bone of the inside of the skull stops, um, what you're looking at is -- is kind of a honeycomb-looking bone. That is, a bone that's sandwiched between the outside of the skull and the inside of the skull. And whenever there is, um, a, uh -- an unnatural defect to the skull that looks like this, um, where you have internal beveling, or what some people call cratering of the inside of the skull, um, it is identified, uh, as, um, an entrance wound from a gunshot.
MR. FALLON: All right. Um, next exhibit? This is Exhibit 191?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: All right. And what are we looking at in Exhibit 191?
LESLIE EISENBERG: What we are looking at here is the flip side of the three bones we had just examined depicting the inside of the skull. What you are looking at now is the outer portion of the skull. And I would call your attention to this area right here. That is the flip side, or the other side, of the, um, area that I've identified as an entrance wound from a gunshot.
MR. FALLON: All right. Now, I noticed, just so that we can have it explained, there seem to be some, um, uh, colored dots, and -- and, uh, one arrow on there, if you could tell us, if you know, what those are?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I would be happy to. The, um -- Initially, because there were so many fragments to examine, um, and those fragments -- each were identified, um, with the location from where they came, I thought it might be necessary to begin to, um, mark the bone, um, to reference their location of where they were initially found. And what I started to do was, um, to mark those individual fragments that had come from different locations, or from the same general location, simply with different color nail polish.
Um, additionally, the -- the skull fragments were also taken to be x-rayed, and whenever any of those fragments, um, showed something unusual and unexpected in x-ray, those fragments also received a nail polish color, but of a different color to distinguish them from the skull bone fragments that showed no unusual signs in x-ray.
Uh, additionally, it's my understanding that this copper-colored arrow pointing to the opening, um, for what I believe is an entrance wound on this left side of the skull, this, I believe, was affixed or placed by, uh, staff from the Wisconsin State Crime Laboratory.
MR. FALLON: And, as a matter of fact, um, to whom did you, um, refer, um, these, um, fragments for further radiological or metallurgic analysis?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I had made contact with a forensic pathologist at the Middleton Veterans Memorial Hospital in Madison, a Dr. Michael Stier, S-t-i-e-r, who was able to set up an appointment for me to have these, uh, skull fragments x-rayed.
MR. FALLON: All right. And after they were x-rayed, did you have anyone else at the Wisconsin Crime Lab further examine them?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir. It was my recommendation that these fragments -- The fragments that showed unusual signatures, if you will, in x-ray, um, it was my recommendation that those signatures be examined for the presence of any non-natural element or object other than what we would all expect to see associated with human bone.
MR. FALLON: All right. And were they subsequently, uh, examined by Kenneth Olson from the Crime Lab?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, they were.
MR. FALLON: All right. Um, the next, uh, photograph, please? This would be Exhibit 192?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: And what are we looking at in Exhibit 192, Doctor?
LESLIE EISENBERG: This is another one of those burned fragmentary skull bones, uh, on which I identified what I believe is another, uh, entry from a gunshot.
MR. FALLON: ; And what -- Which, um, type of the -- or what part of the skull is depicted in Exhibit 192?
LESLIE EISENBERG: What we are looking at here is a fragment from the back of the skull, the part of the skull you can feel when you rub your hand up and down above the nape of your neck. It's called the occipital bone. O-c-c-i-p-i-t-a-l.
MR. FALLON: All right. And, again, if you'd use the pointer. Um, what was of interest or significance to you with respect to this occipital bone?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I saw the same bony signature, the same unnatural defect, in this fragment from the occipital bone as I did in the previous, uh, bone, the parietal bone, from the left side of the skull, where you can see that honeycomb appearance, uh, on the inside of the skull.
And here we are looking at the inner table, or the inside of the occipital bone, seeing the same kind of concentric -- partial concentric defect with the exposure of the honeycomb portion, or the intermediate portion, of the skull bone, um, where the force of the entry actually, um, blows a larger area -- or develops that cratering that I spoke about a minute ago.
MR. FALLON: All right. Um, next exhibit, please? Now, we've had some discussions regarding the parietal, uh, defect. Um, we're showing you, now, Exhibit 193?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: All right. And does this, uh, show the relative placement of the parietal bone and the defect that you observed?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, it does. What we are looking at is a computer-generated image of a human skeleton, and we are looking at that skeleton from -- you're looking towards the left side of the skeleton. So we are looking at the left side of the skull. And that area identified with the arrow and the -- the purple or lavender color is the parietal bone and the approximate location of that initial defect that I identified as a gunshot entry wound.
MR. FALLON: All right.
THE COURT: Counsel, I'm going to interrupt just for a moment. Are we getting to the close of this? Or, perhaps, it's appropriate to take a break now?
MR. FALLON: Well, I was just thinking of that. We have about 15 minutes or so. Do you want to take a break?
THE COURT: Yeah. I think so. All right. We'll take a 15-minute break.
(Recess had at 10:31 a.m.)
(Reconvened at 10:50 a.m.)
THE COURT: Proceed.
MR. FALLON: (By Attorney Fallon) All right. Doctor, I believe we left off with discussion of the parietal defect. We're going to go to the next exhibit. See what is being projected now as Exhibit 194?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: All right. And what is, uh, depicted in Exhibit 194?
LESLIE EISENBERG: We are looking at the, uh, back of a skull. Uh, the back of a computer-generated, uh, skeleton. Um, and focusing on, this time, not the parietal bone on the left side of the skull, but the bone at the lower back of the skull, called the occipital bone, and, in particular, the approximate area of the second internally beveled defect.
MR. FALLON: All right. Uh, next? Should be, I believe, Exhibit, um, 138? Is that the next one in line?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: Okay. Exhibit 138, do you recognize that?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I do.
MR. FALLON: What is Exhibit 138?
LESLIE EISENBERG: We are looking at, um, one of ten x-rays that was taken on November 17 of 2005, depicting two of the left parietal bones. And, in particular, um, the -- the fragment that showed the initial, um, unnatural defect, uh, and the presence of four different radiopaque areas, um, small particles that are white in color.
There's one here, right within and adjacent to this cratering. Again, these are the vessels that tell me that this is the inside of the skull.
Here's another one of those bright white flecks. And there are two others. One is right here, and one just below it. And these flecks show up as bright white like this because they, uh -- the x-rays cannot penetrate them or pass through them like they can with the remainder of the bone.
MR. FALLON: All right. Now, um, Mr. Olson from the Crime Lab has advised us that, um, his findings were that they were, um, uh, in this particular exhibit, traces of elemental lead. My question for you, as a forensic anthropologist, is that a naturally occurring phenomenon in human skull tissue to your knowledge?
LESLIE EISENBERG: It is absolutely not a naturally occurring defect and something I would never expect to see in bone that had not sustained a gunshot wound.
MR. FALLON: All right. Uh, your next exhibit, then, is which one, please? One thirty-nine, I believe?
LESLIE EISENBERG: One thirty-nine, yes.
MR. FALLON: All right. Directing your attention, then, to Exhibit 139, and, in particular, the, um, fragment -- There are eight fragments. Your attention is directed to the fragment on the upper left-hand corner. Um, that fragment that you have now circled, what is it that we're looking at there?
LESLIE EISENBERG: This particular fragment is yet another fragment, that occipital bone fragment, the fragment from the back of the skull, that also shows an internally beveled defect. And in this case, adjacent to and within that defect, are a minimum of ten different, um, areas, um, particles of -- of this bright white again, which, um, is of a substance different than the surrounding bone, radiopaque, in that the x-rays cannot pass through them.
MR. FALLON: And, um, is -- You said that was taken on November 17, 2005. Is that before you began your, uh, ref -- your cranial refit, um, efforts?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, it is, sir.
MR. FALLON: Okay. And just so that we're clear, um, is that the inside or the outside of the occipital bone at the back of the skull that's being depicted?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Um, I do not know because I do not believe the radiology technician who took this image indicated whether it was an anterior, front, or posterior, back, image. From what direction she was taking the image.
MR. FALLON: Very well. Um, next, please? Should be, I believe, Exhibit --
LESLIE EISENBERG: The last exhibit I have before me is Exhibit 195.
MR. FALLON: Okay. Very good. Now, um, I'm going to leave that on the screen for a moment and ask a few preliminary questions. Do the presence of the radiopaque, these impenetrable flecks, as it were, are they supportive, in your mind, of your diagnosis that, uh -- that the manner of death is homicidal violence?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Absolutely, yes.
MR. FALLON: And why is that, Doctor?
LESLIE EISENBERG: These non-naturally occurring particles that have been identified by the Crime Lab as having, um, lead content are not -- would never be seen in bone that. had not been subjected, um, to uh, gunshot trauma.
MR. FALLON: All right. Now, of interest, I think, to many of us, uh, is this: Is there any way for you determ -- for you to determine, based on your examination of the remains, which entry defect, the parietal or the occipital, came first?
LESLIE EISENBERG: No, sir, I cannot make that determination.
MR. FALLON: However, were you able to determine whether these exist -- these defects existed prior to them being subjected to the burning episode or after?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, absolutely, I could make that determination.
MR. FALLON: And -- and what could you determine? What is your opinion?
LESLIE EISENBERG: As I examined these fragments, it was clear to me that, uh, their edges were similar in color to the burning of the rest of the bone. And what that tells me is that these edges, um, these fragments, the bone was fragmented with the edges exposed at the time it was exposed to fire.
MR. FALLON: Now, were there other human remains in this case that were examined that were not of the cranial -- not from the cranial area?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: All right. And, uh, we have what is depicted on the screen as Exhibit No. 195?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FALLON: And, um, first of all, ex -- would you be so kind as to explain the phrase postcranial findings?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Postcranial simply means anything below the head or the skull.
MR. FALLON: And in terms of, um, your examination of the remains here, um, what other, uh, cran -- uh, postcranial remains were identified to you as coming from the burn pit behind Steven Avery's garage?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Virtually, um, every other bone in the body was represented by at least one fragment, and in some -- in some cases, many more fragments. And what we see depicted here on this graphic, um, are areas of the body from which I was able to identify one or more fragments, or entire bones, that could be definitively, definitely, identified as to their origin.
For example, the clavicle or collarbone, or, um, the, um, metacarpals. The hand bone. Or the vertebrae. Parts of the spine.
MR. FALLON: Are all the remains consistent with that of an adult female?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Not every bone in the body will allow you to make a determination of age and/or sex, but the fragments that were diagnostic or held that information for me to look at, um, allowed me to confirm that these remains, these fragmentary burned remains, were those of an adult female.
MR. FALLON: All right. Now, um, I have just a few more questions. During the course of your examination, did you find evidence of, um, human remains, um, obtained from an area other than the, um, burn pit behind Steven Avery's garage?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I did.
MR. FALLON: Tell us about that, please?
LESLIE EISENBERG: There was a second location, away from the burn pit, uh, and closer to the, um -- what was then referred to as the Janda -- Dassey/Janda property, uh, one of four burn barrels contained, uh, human bone fragments.
MR. FALLON: All right. And, uh, just for the benefit of the jury, can you kind of tell us a little bit about what kind of human bone fragments were recovered from that area?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir. In, um, the burn barrel identified as Burn Barrel No. 2, there were human -- burned human bone fragments from the spine, from the shoulder blade, or what we call the scapula, a possible hand bone fragment, what we call a metacarpal, um, and fragments of long bones that could have been, uh, from leg bones or from arm bones.
MR. FALLON: I'm going to show you one, um, other exhibit before we conclude. I'm going to direct your attention to Exhibit -- I believe it's 150, and, um, do you recognize that?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I do.
MR. FALLON: All right. And what is, um, Exhibit 150?
LESLIE EISENBERG: One-five-zero is a portion of burned human bone, um, that was recovered with other smaller burned human bone fragments and fragments of dried or desiccated human muscle tissue.
MR. FALLON: All right. And is this a -- a, um -- the fragment that you caused to be, um, transferred to the Crime Lab for DNA analysis?
LESLIE EISENBERG: That is one of the fragments that I transferred to the Federal Bureau of Investigation for DNA analysis.
MR. FALLON: Now, um, in fact, there was a -- a subsequent attempted analysis on a number of the fragments which you were unable to identify, am I correct?
LESLIE EISENBERG: There were fragments that, um -- whose origin -- I -- I knew what bone they came from, uh, that were sent to the FBI, uh, DNA Lab, but because of the extent of burning to those bones, they were not, in my knowledge, able to obtain, uh, a DNA signature.
MR. FALLON: But they did obtain a -- and the Crime Lab here in Wisconsin did obtain a DNA analysis from some of the fragments?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I believe that's correct.
MR. FALLON: All right. All right, Doctor, to conclude, the opinion that the remains were those of an adult female less than 30 years of age, do you hold that opinion to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I would qualify that, to be consistent with my report, to say the remains were those of someone who is younger than 30 to 35 years of age. Correct.
MR. FALLON: All right. And the opinion that the internal beveling observed in the left parietal bone is characteristic of a gunshot or bullet entrance wound, do you hold that opinion to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, I do. The unnatural defect in the left temporal area of the skull, uh, is the result of a gunshot injury.
MR. FALLON: Um, the opinion that the internal beveling ob -- observed in the occipital bone, left of the midline, is characteristic of a gunshot or bullet entrance wound, do you hold that opinion to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I do.
MR. FALLON: The opinion that the internal beveling, observed in the left parietal bone and in the occipital bone, occurred, um, before the burning episode?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes.
MR. FALLON: Do you hold that opinion to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I do.
MR. FALLON: And, finally, your opinion that the manner of death for this person was homicidal violence, do you hold that opinion to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir, I do.
MR. FALLON: We'd, um, move into evidence, um, the exhibits identified by Doctor Eisenberg. I believe they are Exhibits, uh, 183 through 195, and Exhibit 199.
THE COURT: Counsel, any objection?
MR. FREMGEN: No.
MR. FALLON: Would tender the witness for cross.
THE COURT: They're received. You may cross.
CROSS-EXAMINATION BY ATTORNEY FREMGEN:
MR. FREMGEN: Doctor, I just have a few questions for you. Um, no questions about your qualifications. I wanted to ask you about the box of items that were provided to you to, uh, view. The box of bone fragments. You recall that testimony earlier and the picture of the box that you received to go through?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir. That was the first of 50 containers, um, that I received to, as you say, go through. It was identified as Evidence Tag No. 8318. That's correct.
MR. FREMGEN: Okay. Now, the bones were all as the picture depicted? That would be how you received it?
LESLIE EISENBERG: No. At the time I received it, the box was closed and sealed with evidence tape.
MR. FREMGEN: When you opened it, that's how you observed the bones?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FREMGEN: They weren't individually packaged within the box?
LESLIE EISENBERG: No, sir.
MR. FREMGEN: Okay. Did you receive any individually packaged bones along with that box?
LESLIE EISENBERG: In that box, and as we all saw in that photo, there was a clear plastic bag that contained, um, some items that had been segregated from all of the items that were collected in that box.
MR. FREMGEN: Now, you indicated that the manner of death was homicidal violence? Specifically, gunshot; correct?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I -- In terms of my determination of manner of death, yes, homicidal violence would be considered the manner of death. There was evidence for two discrete gunshot wounds, and, uh, the extreme fragmentation and burning of the body, um, was part of the process in my opinion.
MR. FREMGEN: In regards, specifically, to the two gunshot wounds, based on beveling and the -- the two skull fracture fragments you received? Correct? That's where you came up with that determination or opinion?
LESLIE EISENBERG: That is correct, sir.
MR. FREMGEN: You were able to determine that -- from your testimony, I understand it, that the -- those skull, um, defects could not have occurred during the burning process?
LESLIE EISENBERG: That is correct.
MR. FREMGEN: Would have to have occurred prior to the burning process?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, sir.
MR. FREMGEN: But would you agree there is no evidence, at least from what you have testified to so far, that indicates that the individual was alive at the time of the two, uh, gunshot wounds?
LESLIE EISENBERG: I cannot make that determination. That's not within my field of expertise.
MR. FREMGEN: So when you say this is the manner of death, it's more of a educated guesstimate versus an exact determination?
LESLIE EISENBERG: Well, I am not a medical doctor, sir, but based on my experience, and having, um, examined other cases that show these characteristic signatures of gunshot wounds, um, it's my opinion that, um, it certainly would have contributed to the cause of death.
MR. FREMGEN: If the person were alive prior to the gunshots --
LESLIE EISENBERG: Yes, Sir.
MR. FREMGEN: -- correct? Okay. Were you, um, present during the second -- the burn -- The four burn barrels you testified to, were you present during, uh, the sifting of those burn barrels?
LESLIE EISENBERG: To my knowledge, I was not. Although, uh, I would like to -- to qualify that answer by saying that I did have, uh, occasion, on two separate occasions, to reexamine material that may have originated from any one of those four burn barrels.
MR. FREMGEN: Okay. That's all. Thank you.
LESLIE EISENBERG: Thank you, sir.
THE COURT: Any redirect, Counsel?
MR. FALLON: No redirect.
THE COURT: You may step down.
LESLIE EISENBERG: Thank you.
THE COURT: You're welcome.
MR. FALLON: I believe there's a, uh, trial stipulation?
THE COURT: There is. There's an additional trial stipulation. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I remind you what I told you earlier this morning about stipulations. They are evidence. I'm going to read the following as a trial stipulation:
Number one. Dr. Jeffrey Jentzen is the Chief Medical Examiner for Milwaukee County, Wisconsin, and is a board certified forensic pathologist. Dr. Jentzen agreed to be a medical consultant in this case and offered expert opinion as to the manner and cause of death of Teresa Halbach.
Number two. That if called to testify, Dr. Jentzen would state that after consultation with forensic anthropologist, Dr. Leslie Eisenberg, he reviewed reports, photographs, x-rays, bone fragments, and other materials surrounding the Teresa Halbach death investigation.
Dr. Jentzen would testify that in his expert opinion, to a reasonable degree of medical certainty, the manner of death of Teresa Halbach was homicide, and the cause of death was gunshot wounds to the head.
To the prosecution, is that your stipulation?
MR. FALLON: It -- It is.
THE COURT: To the defense?
MR. FREMGEN: Yes.
THE COURT: It will be marked as Exhibit --
(Exhibit No. 200 marked for identification.)
COURT CLERK: Two hundred.
THE COURT: Exhibit No. 200. You have an additional witness?
MR. FALLON: I -- I think we -- we can start. We will not finish.
THE COURT: All right. Please start.