6.Jodi Stachowski — Direct/Cross
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COURT CLERK: Please raise your right hand.
JODI STACHOWSKI, called as a witness herein, having been first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:
COURT CLERK: Please be seated. Please state your name and spell your last name for the record.
JODI STACHOWSKI: Jodi Stachowski, S-t-a-c-h-o-w-s-k-i.
DIRECT EXAMINATION BY ATTORNEY KRATZ:
MR. KRATZ: Ms. Stachowski, you'll have to speak right into the microphone so that we can all hear what you're saying. Ms. Stachowski, in, um -- during the year 2005, and up to and including Halloween of 2005, were you involved in a, uh, relationship with an individual?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes, I was.
MR. KRATZ: Who was that relationship with?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Steven Avery.
MR. KRATZ: And what, in fact, was your relationship with Mr. Avery during that year?
JODI STACHOWSKI: I was his fiancé.
MR. KRATZ: Ms. Stachowski, I'm going to direct your attention to October 31 of 2005, uh, ask if you'd tell the jury, please, where you were physically, uh, located that day, if you recall?
JODI STACHOWSKI: I was in the Manitowoc County Jail.
MR. KRATZ: And can you tell the jurors, please, why it was that you were in jail at that time?
JODI STACHOWSKI: For a fifth drunk driving.
MR. KRATZ: All right. During your stay at the Manitowoc County Jail, uh, which included, uh, Halloween of 2005, did you have occasion to remain in contact with your then fiancé, Steven Avery?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes, I did.
MR. KRATZ: When was it, Ms. Stachowski, that you went into jail? That is, when was it that you had to report to jail, if you can remember?
JODI STACHOWSKI: I believe it was in August.
MR. KRATZ: All right. And how long of a stay? That is, how long were you scheduled to be in jail from August, '05?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Seven months.
MR. KRATZ: Between August, then, and October 31 of '05, uh, how regularly would you remain in contact with Mr. Avery?
JODI STACHOWSKI: I talked to him once a day.
MR. KRATZ: Were there any occasions, Ms. Stachowski, when you would talk to Mr. Avery on more than one occasion during a particular day?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yeah.
MR. KRATZ: All right. And how would those conversations occur? In other words, were they in person or were they on the telephone?
JODI STACHOWSKI: On the telephone.
MR. KRATZ: Could you tell the jurors, please, how those phone calls would be placed? That is, would you place the calls to Mr. Avery or would he call you?
JODI STACHOWSKI: I had to call him collect.
MR. KRATZ: Let me ask you, Ms. Stachowski, do you remember October 31 of 2005? And, specifically, do you remember placing any calls to your fiancé, Steven Avery?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes.
MR. KRATZ: On October 31, 2005, on how many occasions did you talk to Mr. Avery?
JODI STACHOWSKI: I called Steven twice that day.
MR. KRATZ: And could you tell the jurors about what times those two calls were placed?
JODI STACHOWSKI: The first one was about 5:30, and then the second one about 9:30.
MR. KRATZ: All right. Are those estimates, Ms. Stachowski?
JODI STACHOWSKI: As close as I can remember, yes.
MR. KRATZ: How long would those phone calls last?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Fifteen minutes.
MR. KRATZ: And how do you know they lasted 15 minutes? In other words, was there something with the jail that --
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yeah. They just disconnected after 15 minutes.
MR. KRATZ: All right. Ms. Stachowski, the last area of -- of inquiry I have for you for this trial is the, um, arrangement or setup of Mr. Avery's, um, trailer. First of all, are you familiar with, uh, Mr. Avery's, um, residence? With his trailer?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes.
MR. KRATZ: Did you live in that trailer prior to you having to go to jail in August of '05?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes, I did.
MR. KRATZ: And at the time that you lived there, did you and Mr. Avery share the same bedroom?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes.
MR. KRATZ: Describe, if you will, um, the kind of furniture that Mr. Avery had, or that you and Mr. Avery shared, in his bedroom? Uh, that is, prior to you going into jail.
JODI STACHOWSKI: There was the bed, a filing cabinet, a desk, a bookcase, dresser, and a TV.
MR. KRATZ: All right. Do you remember, Ms. Stachowski, prior to your going into the jail, if Mr. Avery had any, uh, gun racks or firearms on the wall?
JODI STACHOWSKI: There was a gun rack with two guns on the wall.
MR. KRATZ: Do you know what kind of guns those were? If you don't, that's fine. I'm just --
MR. KRATZ: just asking. All right. I'm going to show you what has been received as Exhibit No. 73. This is a computer-generated diagram. Um, first of all, at least from the standpoint of having a bed, uh, a desk, a bookcase, uh, and a nightstand, or filing cabinet, and a dresser, assuming that's what that is down there, uh, is that the same kind of furniture that Mr. Avery and you had in that bedroom before you went into jail?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes.
MR. KRATZ: Now, before you went into jail, looking at Exhibit No. 73, was the room set up or configured that way?
JODI STACHOWSKI: No, it wasn't.
MR. KRATZ: Could you tell the jurors, please, how it was different? What -- First of all, where was the bed when -- uh, when you went into jail? How was it situated?
JODI STACHOWSKI: In the corner underneath the two windows. When you first walk in the door, you'd walk straight into the bed.
MR. KRATZ: All right. And so if I'm taking a laser pointer, uh, and pointing, um, what would be to the, uh, top right, or towards the bottom left, uh, is it a fair characterization that the bed was facing this way?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes.
MR. KRATZ: Which, uh, side, or which wall was the headboard on?
JODI STACHOWSKI: The headboard was on the farthest wall, the small window.
MR. KRATZ: And I'm pointing, uh, to, uh, the wall, which would be the east wall, of the trailer. Um, is that the wall that the headboard was on?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes.
MR. KRATZ: The headboard was here and the bed was, uh, along, um, that way; is that -- is that correct?
JODI STACHOWSKI: That's correct.
MR. KRATZ: Okay. Now, was the bed all the way against this right-hand or, uh, south wall, or was it away from the wall?
JODI STACHOWSKI: It was against the wall.
MR. KRATZ: So it was abutted all the way up against --
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yeah.
MR. KRATZ: -- the wall? The, um -- This bookcase, um, that we see, uh, depicted in Exhibit No., uh, 73, can you tell us where that was located while you were there?
JODI STACHOWSKI: That was located on the wall where the bed is underneath the guns.
MR. KRATZ: All right. And where was the nightstand?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Next to the bed.
MR. KRATZ: um -
JODI STACHOWSKI: Like right there. Yeah.
MR. KRATZ: Would be right next to the door?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yep.
MR. KRATZ: So the nightstand would be here, and the bed would -- would -- would be this way right next to it; is that right?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes.
MR. KRATZ: All right. A -- assuming that this dresser -- and I can show you another version if I need to -- but assuming the dresser is kind of kitty-corner, uh, in the, uh, southwest corner of the bedroom, would that have been in about the same place?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes.
MR. KRATZ: I'm going to show you one more photo just to kind of orient us. This is Exhibit No. 75. I think you've told us that the bed was along, uh, this wall with the headboard underneath, uh, the east window; is that correct?
JODI STACHOWSKI: That's correct.
MR. KRATZ: As you looked down this hallway, then -- This is a hallway; is that right?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes.
MR. KRATZ: As you looked down this hallway, uh, and through the open doorway, uh, would you be able, then, to see the bed?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes, you would.
MR. KRATZ: All right.
MR. KRATZ: That's all the questions today for Ms. Stachowski, then, Judge. Thank you.
THE COURT: Counsel? Cross?
MR. FREMGEN: I guess I just have one -- Excuse me. I just have one question.
CROSS-EXAMINATION BY ATTORNEY FREMGEN:
MR. FREMGEN: Your testimony is essentially that the configuration of the bedroom in August is different than the picture here?
JODI STACHOWSKI: Yes.
MR. FREMGEN: Nothing else.
THE COURT: All right. You may step down.
MR. KRATZ: This might be a good time for our afternoon break, Judge.
THE COURT: All right. We'll take 15 minutes. We'll be back at approximately quarter -- well, ten -- ten of three.
(Recess had at 2:33 p.m.)
(Reconvened at 2:54 p.m.)
THE COURT: Your next witness, Counsel?