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Steven AverytranscripttranscriptRobert Fabian — Direct/Cross - Day 12 - Steven AveryRobert Fabian described plastic-smelling burn-barrel smoke during an October 31 rabbit hunt. On cross-examination, he said he had not looked inside the barrel.
Kenneth R. KratzDean A. StrangPatrick L. WillisRobert FabianCourt ClerkRobert FabianMR. KRATZMR. STRANGTHE COURTdirectcross
Steven Avery/Day 12/February 27, 2007
10 pages·6 witnesses·2,834 lines
Witnesses testified about the burn barrel, bonfire, RAV4 bloodstains, and October 31 calls. Earlier accounts and conflicting call-duration entries drew questioning. The court deferred decisions on the renewed bullet-testing motion and proposed voicemail-access evidence.
DirectDirectRobert Fabian — Direct Robert Fabian Kenneth R. Kratz

COURT CLERK: Raise your right hand.

ROBERT FABIAN, called as a witness herein, having been first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:

COURT CLERK: Please be seated. Please state your name and spell your last name for the record.

ROBERT FABIAN: Robert Fabian, F-a-b-i-a-n.

DIRECT EXAMINATION BY ATTORNEY KRATZ:

MR. KRATZ: Mr. Fabian, do you know the defendant, Steven Avery?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, I do.

MR. KRATZ: He's the gentleman seated in the courtroom next to his lawyers; is that right?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. KRATZ: On October 31st of 2005, do you remember seeing Mr. Avery?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, I do.

MR. KRATZ: Now, do you know any of the other members of the Avery family?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, I do.

MR. KRATZ: And is there one of the Avery's that you know better than the others?

ROBERT FABIAN: Probably Earl.

MR. KRATZ: Who is Earl Avery?

ROBERT FABIAN: Would be Steven's brother.

MR. KRATZ: On October 31st of 2005, do you recall being with Earl Avery that day?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, I do.

MR. KRATZ: Now, are Earl and you friends?

MR. KRATZ: On the 31st of October, that would be Halloween; is that right?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. KRATZ: On that date, were you and Earl doing something together?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, we went rabbit hunting.

MR. KRATZ: And where did you go rabbit hunting?

ROBERT FABIAN: In the junkyard.

MR. KRATZ: By the junkyard, are you referring to the Avery Salvage Yard?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. KRATZ: And was there a mode of transportation or a way that you were getting around the junkyard while you and Earl were rabbit hunting?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, we were using a golf cart.

MR. KRATZ: Do you know whose golf cart that was?

ROBERT FABIAN: I believe Mrs. Avery.

MR. KRATZ: You mean Delores?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, correct.

MR. KRATZ: Earl's mom?

MR. KRATZ: When did you begin rabbit hunting that day; do you remember?

ROBERT FABIAN: I believe I got there, it was about 10 to 5 quarter to 5, something like that.

MR. KRATZ: All right. Do you know about what time it gets dark or got dark around the 31st of October?

ROBERT FABIAN: I do remember when I got home it was like quarter to 6.

MR. KRATZ: Was it getting dark or was it dark by about quarter to 6?

ROBERT FABIAN: I believe it was, yes.

MR. KRATZ: Just before getting dark, or just before your rabbit hunt was completed, did you find your way up towards Steven Avery's trailer?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, we did.

MR. KRATZ: I'm going to show you an exhibit which has been received. It's No. 114. It's a computer animation, a drawing, but will this exhibit help you describe or explain the rest of your testimony?

ROBERT FABIAN: I believe so.

MR. KRATZ: Do you recognize that general area?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, I do.

MR. KRATZ: What is that area, generally?

ROBERT FABIAN: Steven Avery's residence.

MR. KRATZ: All right. Now, do you see both a burn barrel there, a garage, a trailer, and a reddish maroon either Voyager or Caravan?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, I do.

MR. KRATZ: All right. Now, on the 31st, that is, on October 31st of '05, did that area generally look like that?

ROBERT FABIAN: Somewhat, yes.

MR. KRATZ: Were there some differences on the 31st of October?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, I believe there was a snowmobile trailer hooked up to the truck. And I don't believe the garage doors were open. And I don't remember the van sitting there.

MR. KRATZ: All right. Let's talk about each of those things individually. First of all, let me talk about the garage door itself. About what time -- If you can place, as best you can recall, about what time were you in that general vicinity?

ROBERT FABIAN: I would say maybe 20 after 5.

MR. KRATZ: This is p.m.?

MR. KRATZ: And at 5:20 p.m., did you have occasion to look at Mr. Avery's garage door?

ROBERT FABIAN: I didn't specifically look at it, but it was closed, I believe, at the time.

MR. KRATZ: All right. With the garage door being closed, were you able to see what was in the garage door at the time?

MR. KRATZ: There's some other things on this diagram, specifically the burn barrel; do you remember that barrel on the 31st of October?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, I do.

MR. KRATZ: Tell the jury what you remember about that burn barrel at about 5:20 p.m. on the 31st of October?

ROBERT FABIAN: When me and Earl had pulled up on the golf cart, we had stopped in between the house and the garage. And the smoke from the burn barrel was blowing right in my face. So I told Earl to move ahead.

MR. KRATZ: You have got a laser pointer right in front of you. I don't know if you know how to work that thing. There's a button on it. If you can point that at the exhibit. First of all, point out the burn barrel; what are you talking about?

ROBERT FABIAN: Right there.

MR. KRATZ: All right. You and Earl were both on the golf cart?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. KRATZ: Where were you parked at first with the golf cart?

ROBERT FABIAN: When we had pulled up, we had came from this direction, and we had pulled up in here, somewhere up in here.

MR. KRATZ: You are pointing to an area which is still on what would be the driveway area, but just south of, or south-ish, of the burn barrel; is that an accurate description?

ROBERT FABIAN: That is correct.

MR. STRANG: From the east to the west, I think the witness was showing.

MR. KRATZ: Yes, I'm sorry.

MR. KRATZ: (By Attorney Kratz)~ You were pointing from the east to the west?

MR. KRATZ: Towards Steven's trailer?

MR. KRATZ: Did you actually stop in the golf cart? Did you have -- Did the golf cart come to a complete stop?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, we had stopped. And that's when the smoke was blowing in my face.

MR. KRATZ: Okay. Let's talk about the smoke and where was it coming from?

ROBERT FABIAN: It was coming from the burn barrel.

MR. KRATZ: Can you show us again where that was coming from?

ROBERT FABIAN: Over there, it was coming from there and coming this way.

MR. KRATZ: All right. Describe for the jury, as best that you can remember, if you can remember, at about 5:20 p.m.; what was the smoke like?

ROBERT FABIAN: It was kind of a heavier smoke. And it smelled like plastic. It didn't smell like regular garbage.

MR. KRATZ: Well, let's talk about that a little bit. Have you smelled plastic, or plastic components being burned before?

ROBERT FABIAN: As a kid growing up in the country, yes, I burned a lot of garbage.

MR. KRATZ: All right. Is it your testimony that burning plastic smells different than just regular burning garbage?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. KRATZ: And what did you smell that day?

ROBERT FABIAN: It was plastic.

MR. KRATZ: Now, did you ever get out of the golf cart and look in the burn barrel and see what kind of plastic things were burning in there?

ROBERT FABIAN: No, I did not.

MR. KRATZ: When you stopped the golf cart up towards Steven's trailer, did you actually have occasion to see Steven Avery?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, we did.

MR. KRATZ: And can you describe where you saw him, or where he was coming from?

ROBERT FABIAN: The first we had seen him is, we were pulling up here, on the golf cart, we were not stopped yet. And he had came out of the door of the house, and come down the steps, and was headed towards the garage.

MR. KRATZ: All right. Did he make it all the way to the garage?

ROBERT FABIAN: No, he did not.

MR. KRATZ: What happened then?

ROBERT FABIAN: I believe Earl asked him what he was doing, and he came walking over to the golf cart.

MR. KRATZ: Did you have a conversation with him at that time?

MR. KRATZ: All right. How long were you in the golf cart? How long was this smoke coming toward you at the time?

ROBERT FABIAN: The smoke was only bothering me for a few seconds or so, and I had told Earl to pull ahead, made him pull ahead so it wouldn't bother me. So that's when he had pulled ahead.

MR. KRATZ: Mr. Fabian, could you describe, I know you said it was 20 after 5, but could you describe the lighting conditions; what time of day was it? How close was it getting towards dusk?

ROBERT FABIAN: It was getting towards dark, getting relatively hard to kind of see already.

MR. KRATZ: All right.

MR. KRATZ: Good enough. That's all I have for this witness, Judge. Thank you.

THE COURT: I think at this point we'll take our lunch break and start back with cross-examination after lunch. We'll resume at 1:00. Members of the jury, I will remind you again not to discuss the case in any fashion over the lunch break. You are excused at this time.

(Jury not present.)

THE COURT: You may be seated. Counsel, I just want to check the agenda for this afternoon. Mr. Kratz.

THE COURT: Who's on your witness list for this afternoon?

MR. KRATZ: After Mr. Tadych, Judge, we do have the two telephone records custodians. Excuse me. We also have available two law enforcement officials who searched what we now know as the burn area. So we can proceed with any of those. Because the records custodians are relatively short. And they have come here today, I would like to put in those records and their testimony. And so if I had a preference in order, I would call Mr. Tadych, the two records custodians, and then we would move on to the burn area search.

THE COURT: Mr. Strang.

MR. STRANG: Probably we would be better off discussing scheduling off the record. Would that make sense?

THE COURT: All right. We'll go off the record at this time.

(Noon recess taken.)

(Jury present.)

CrossCrossRobert Fabian — Cross Robert Fabian Dean A. Strang

THE COURT: Mr. Strang, you may begin your cross-examination of the witness.

CROSS-EXAMINATION BY ATTORNEY STRANG:

MR. STRANG: The following afternoon, you get to the Avery Salvage property to see your friend, Earl, at about 4:45, 4:50?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. STRANG: Quarter to 5, 10 to 5, something like that?

MR. STRANG: The two of you are planning in advance to do some rabbit hunting?

ROBERT FABIAN: I think I showed up unannounced.

MR. STRANG: Showed up with a rifle though, to do some hunting?

MR. STRANG: Earl had a rifle to do some hunting?

ROBERT FABIAN: I believe he was working at the time when I arrived.

MR. STRANG: I'm sorry?

ROBERT FABIAN: He was working at the time I arrived.

ROBERT FABIAN: Which would have been at closing time.

MR. STRANG: But he also participated in the rabbit hunt?

MR. STRANG: That required a rifle?

ROBERT FABIAN: Yes, I believe.

MR. STRANG: You weren't snaring rabbits?

MR. STRANG: Or trying to shoot them with a bow and arrow?

MR. STRANG: Okay. The two of you then do that, and I take it you have to break off rabbit hunting before it's dark out?

MR. STRANG: You have to be able to see the rabbit?

MR. STRANG: The time over at -- near Steven Avery's trailer, then, is as darkness is approaching?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. STRANG: You are nearing the end of your hunt?

ROBERT FABIAN: That is correct.

MR. STRANG: It has taken you about 15 minutes to drive from your house to the Avery Salvage Yard?

ROBERT FABIAN: Approximately 15.

MR. STRANG: It will take you about 15 minutes to get back, give or take?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. STRANG: And you think you are back by quarter to 6?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. STRANG: That is, back at your house?

ROBERT FABIAN: At my house, yes.

MR. STRANG: What's your -- What's your rabbit gun?

ROBERT FABIAN: I have a .22.

MR. STRANG: Okay. Standard sort of small game gun?

MR. STRANG: Did you guys get any rabbits that day?

ROBERT FABIAN: No, we did not.

MR. STRANG: The smoke that you smell near the burn barrel, you are in the path of it for a few seconds?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. STRANG: You get out of the path of it?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. STRANG: You know that from living in the country yourself, that burn barrels are for burning garbage, typically?

MR. STRANG: Garbage may include plastic milk cartons?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. STRANG: Plastic cartons from other things from the grocery store?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct?

MR. STRANG: Maybe a plastic garbage bag itself?

ROBERT FABIAN: That's correct.

MR. STRANG: All kinds of plastic items that may be in garbage, when you are burning it?

MR. STRANG: You didn't look in the burn barrel?

ROBERT FABIAN: No, I did not.

MR. STRANG: You noticed that the barrel was already burning, obviously?

MR. STRANG: Didn't see anybody put anything in the burn barrel?

ROBERT FABIAN: No, I didn't.

MR. STRANG: Saw at the side that there was -- Well, let me ask you, you didn't smell a tire burning?

MR. STRANG: You know the smell of a burning rubber tire?

MR. STRANG: Didn't see heavy black smoke coming out?

MR. STRANG: All right. Didn't see a tire or a rim assembly lying next to the burn barrel either?

ROBERT FABIAN: No, not that I recall.

MR. STRANG: You certainly saw no larger fire going in a burn area?

ROBERT FABIAN: No, I did not.

MR. STRANG: Didn't hear any screaming?

ROBERT FABIAN: No, I did not.

MR. STRANG: Didn't hear any gunshots coming from that area?

ROBERT FABIAN: No, I did not.

MR. STRANG: That's all I have. Thank you.

THE COURT: Any redirect?

MR. KRATZ: Not of this witness, Judge.

THE COURT: Very well. You are excused.

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